Given the options (in a strictly hypothetical thought exercise) between a system that *did* require a revolt of the masses vs. a small organized force battling clown world; it would seem the latter has a better chance of a civilized outcome (at least with a well armed US citizenry).
After some considerable searching I found what appears to be an intact copy of Coup D'etat on archive.org. Can I post a link?
If anything, the mythology of 'The Masses need to sign onboard with your programme'...
That's the sort of thing that the Mediocre say & use to keep the Talented guilt-ridden, confused, dazed & impotent. So far it has worked WONDERS in the US & the various EU Vassals:
However, as times get worse, I doubt the authentic technicians, intelligentsia, etc in Western societies will sit idly by & watch basic amenities (such as Indoor Plumbing) go extinct.
They will tire of this nonsense & strike when the 'Regime' least expect them to.
Obama's film 'Leave the World behind' is an Amateur's scribblings on how the Mediocre view said strike & seizure of power to unfold, so they are not wholly unaware of what's next.
Also it’s dangerous to move first - especially against a dying animal. Legal insurrection is an interesting notion - which I will go on about - a sort of intervention to prevent the nation committing suicide. There is provision for this in the liberal idea.
“Dangerous to move first” as the South found out... they played their cards badly by beginning the hostilities because it gave the north a competing cause. While I find your thesis here highly intriguing, I believe mass opinion has a necessary role in legitimizing any regime. The Bolsheviks couldn’t stop with the seizure of the state apparatus. They fought a bloody civil war before they could rest easy in their offices. Trotsky himself led the military effort. After they won, the new regime had to mobilize civilian true believer “troops” to go out into the countryside to consolidate power on the local level. Only when the masses are with you, either by force or manipulation, is the coup complete.
Yes, fair enough - but the companion of chaos, combined with compliance and incompetence will see to much of that. The argument is made by reality these days. Looking up from the adverts of our democracy shows they are selling a counterfeit. This is the state today - a salesman of knockoff goods, hawking shiny empty boxes out the back of a botched civilisation.
I think crisis makes alternatives necessary, not optional, and there aren't any in our closed system - which is obviously the politics of suicide.
I think it noteworthy that the initial capture of power is the point of the coup, and that this can and has been done by a small minority. It is more likely to carry a significant number of active and passive supporters in a time of near universal exasperation. Again, what time is it now?
I do agree with the essential point that the masses follow not lead. I have come reluctantly to the view that only a new elite pushes out the old. But what comes next depends heavily on the clarity of their vision. Chile got Pinochet because the coup plotters didn’t think much beyond Commies bad. The French Revolution ended up with Napoleon. Our founding fathers had more going on than a desire for power. Because we’ve lived it, it’s hard to appreciate how radical they were: Washington had the one ring and threw it into the fire. It may be elites that provide the animating force for change, but they must first be motivated by some vision other than the seizure and retention of power. I’d say the Bolsheviks had that too but it devolved more quickly than our experiment did, perhaps because they got a few more assumptions wrong than we did.
I think the system is committing suicide, its utopianism having come up against the hard limits of reality. It is reality which compels an argument, and I think action will follow. This is a period of accelerating disenchantment - the world moves on whilst the spell is broken.
I didn’t think I had more to learn about Lev Bronstein. Then I saw that meme about him drawing himself as the Chad and Stalin as the Wojak.
After that I found out about his insurrection. His method as described by Malaparte has been deliberately obscured by a contrived narrative of revolution - to prevent others from happening.
Oh yes it’s quite the subject. The idea that it is a technique was revisited in the 1960s by Luttwak. I’ll be going on about him, and other successful coups d’Etat - next.
Great insight. Waiting for the masses to wake up is absurd. We all have our private examples of otherwise credible people believing obvious nonsense, or at least not challenging it. Covid is just a recent example. But my sister recently received a lecture from a friend about going on holiday. Didn't she care about the environment?
The sheepish mentality that keeps them from questioning climate, immigration and all the rest will presumably keep the next Stalin or Napoleon in place too. I guess that is the insight here.
Oh yes. They are, and I think this is good news. The replacement of one elite with another usually begins with a disaffected intellectual faction, which then attracts backing - financial and industrial and so on.
That’s one way. To look more credible than the incumbent. The one we have is exhausted and has degraded from ideals to plunder. The games up. It is a question of who has the acumen to seize the opportunity
It’s still going to come as a tremendous shock to most people that Liberalism really is dead, and what that means. That is more of an observation than an opinion, given what has happened in once liberal states.
There will be events which demonstrate this fact more obviously and in a manner which is startling to those who still think it’s the 1990s. The Regime really is desperate and there is genuine - and justified - fear within it at what might follow their unarrestable enfeeblement.
One revolution is still necessary: the one that will not end with the rule of its leader. It will be the revolution against revolutions, the uprising of all peaceable individuals, who will become soldiers for once so that neither they nor anyone else will ever have to be a soldier again.
Jose Marti
....
Men of action, above all those whose actions are guided by love, live forever.
The American population in 1776 was 2.5 million. The Russian Empire ruled over about 125 million people before it's fall in 1917, just 141 years later. In 2023, 247 years after the founding of America, the USA population is about 336 million souls, a lot of which are foreign, not-American people. The sheer number of not-American people living in our country, the USA, cannot be overstated. These claims to history and what should be are almost laughable. We have tens, thousands of millions of immigrants in our American borders today taking jobs, taking government services, taking millions, billions of American tax payer dollars from real Americans, and almost zero state or federal politicians will say anything about it. We can all type our words on the internet day after day, while State governments and Mayors sing praises of foreign immigrants and give them services of American taxpayers and citizens. At some point, People have to stand up and say, "Enough. Stop."
Since you mention the Soviets a lot, I'm curious how you factor the White Army into this. Controlling the government didn't actually give the Soviets control of the country without a large scale civil war after.
It seems like that part is much more reliant on broad support.
Well written. It does offer another view on the utility of revolution. I have observed that revolution is offered as a solution to the masses or a consequence of dictatorship in mainstream entertainment.
I have also accepted that revolution is usually a bad thing because if you were to have a revolution with 51% backing then with hard times there would be at risk from the 49% if you cannot deliver on promises. A famous East European Political artist depicted the problem in a painting with a set of rotating statues, as one is pulled down another replaces it to be rotated out of place, regular as clockwork. Such has appeared to happen but if your post is closer to the truth then the revolution is simply a disguise for an elite power transfer and repeated revolutions are simply repeated elite power transfers and that does ring true.
Basically what we need is to have enough people who understand the problem and enough skills to make change. Linux and Mastodon are some of the tools. LetsEncrypt I think is owned by the enemy and the need to use it is pretty well backed into all browsers and the control it offers is massive. Having a truly user owned SSL certificate authority would be a valuable tool to add to the toolbox. A method of communicating that was not owned by one man (starlink) would be a bonus too.
Not sure what I want to state here; but I know with less than a few percent f the population - we can all cause a revolution.
However ... whilst I am no lover of the French; you have to give them credit for this... with English subtitles (I love it). Sharpen the pitch forks, lock and load guys and girls .... and hey - God bless!.
....
La Marseillaise, sung by Mireille Mathieu. American English ...
The only direction France is going to go is backward for the foreseeable future. My last name is Marseille. Our glory days of social activism under Napoleon have faded to a distant memory. Yet, from here in Canada I say, "Vive Napoleon et Vive la France et Mirelle Mathieu".
Hello "Marseille !" ... I have talked to a Canadian women via email since maybe 2000 and the thing I would like to tell you is that you lot over there do not hear or see everything - maybe less than us in the UK. As a Country maybe it is down the toilet with the mass immigration and globilst scum in charge (new one is a WEF - young global leader); but France was right up there with the best marching and fighting against the plandemic... keep the faith as I reckon we willall unite soon and give them their one World government BUT ON OUR TERMS - the peoples...
Great "How To". Seize the memes of production, comrade.
I am following up with a guide on how this is being done right now, by an exemplary dissident propagandist. Should be up Monday, товарищ.
This is very interesting. Thank you!
Given the options (in a strictly hypothetical thought exercise) between a system that *did* require a revolt of the masses vs. a small organized force battling clown world; it would seem the latter has a better chance of a civilized outcome (at least with a well armed US citizenry).
After some considerable searching I found what appears to be an intact copy of Coup D'etat on archive.org. Can I post a link?
Yes of course go ahead. I bought an Amazon reprint. It's out of print for good reason - because it reveals a lot of valuable information.
Thank you the link is here:
https://archive.org/details/malaparte-curzio-coup-detat-the-technique-of-revolution-2004/page/n15/mode/2up
It appears to be the original but sort of republished. You can download it as an EPUB or PDF and drop it on your Kindle.
If anything, the mythology of 'The Masses need to sign onboard with your programme'...
That's the sort of thing that the Mediocre say & use to keep the Talented guilt-ridden, confused, dazed & impotent. So far it has worked WONDERS in the US & the various EU Vassals:
However, as times get worse, I doubt the authentic technicians, intelligentsia, etc in Western societies will sit idly by & watch basic amenities (such as Indoor Plumbing) go extinct.
They will tire of this nonsense & strike when the 'Regime' least expect them to.
Obama's film 'Leave the World behind' is an Amateur's scribblings on how the Mediocre view said strike & seizure of power to unfold, so they are not wholly unaware of what's next.
All true. But with no facts or historical knowledge, my intuition tells me the coups have already happened in the USA and in the UK. :-(
Covert capture rather than an overt coup IMO
What an interesting article (as usual!).
I can think of a few good men to lead the seizing of the State. They have followers who would probably follow them into action.
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Trotsky!
Also it’s dangerous to move first - especially against a dying animal. Legal insurrection is an interesting notion - which I will go on about - a sort of intervention to prevent the nation committing suicide. There is provision for this in the liberal idea.
“Dangerous to move first” as the South found out... they played their cards badly by beginning the hostilities because it gave the north a competing cause. While I find your thesis here highly intriguing, I believe mass opinion has a necessary role in legitimizing any regime. The Bolsheviks couldn’t stop with the seizure of the state apparatus. They fought a bloody civil war before they could rest easy in their offices. Trotsky himself led the military effort. After they won, the new regime had to mobilize civilian true believer “troops” to go out into the countryside to consolidate power on the local level. Only when the masses are with you, either by force or manipulation, is the coup complete.
Yes, fair enough - but the companion of chaos, combined with compliance and incompetence will see to much of that. The argument is made by reality these days. Looking up from the adverts of our democracy shows they are selling a counterfeit. This is the state today - a salesman of knockoff goods, hawking shiny empty boxes out the back of a botched civilisation.
I think crisis makes alternatives necessary, not optional, and there aren't any in our closed system - which is obviously the politics of suicide.
I think it noteworthy that the initial capture of power is the point of the coup, and that this can and has been done by a small minority. It is more likely to carry a significant number of active and passive supporters in a time of near universal exasperation. Again, what time is it now?
I do agree with the essential point that the masses follow not lead. I have come reluctantly to the view that only a new elite pushes out the old. But what comes next depends heavily on the clarity of their vision. Chile got Pinochet because the coup plotters didn’t think much beyond Commies bad. The French Revolution ended up with Napoleon. Our founding fathers had more going on than a desire for power. Because we’ve lived it, it’s hard to appreciate how radical they were: Washington had the one ring and threw it into the fire. It may be elites that provide the animating force for change, but they must first be motivated by some vision other than the seizure and retention of power. I’d say the Bolsheviks had that too but it devolved more quickly than our experiment did, perhaps because they got a few more assumptions wrong than we did.
I think the system is committing suicide, its utopianism having come up against the hard limits of reality. It is reality which compels an argument, and I think action will follow. This is a period of accelerating disenchantment - the world moves on whilst the spell is broken.
I didn’t think I had more to learn about Lev Bronstein. Then I saw that meme about him drawing himself as the Chad and Stalin as the Wojak.
After that I found out about his insurrection. His method as described by Malaparte has been deliberately obscured by a contrived narrative of revolution - to prevent others from happening.
Interesting topic. Agree people on mass don't instigate revolutions.
Oh yes it’s quite the subject. The idea that it is a technique was revisited in the 1960s by Luttwak. I’ll be going on about him, and other successful coups d’Etat - next.
'The people ' bought the ' product' but we're too lazy to read the fine print, and too scared, tired or nihilistic to argue with anyone about it.
The fine print said "This product was manufactured for short-term convenience. No returns accepted".
I'm AP and I approve this message.
Actually that's not my real name.
And if anyone asks I disavow.
But anyway.
Love it, Frank. Don’t get locked up though - we need you!
Lole they will take the memes FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS
Great insight. Waiting for the masses to wake up is absurd. We all have our private examples of otherwise credible people believing obvious nonsense, or at least not challenging it. Covid is just a recent example. But my sister recently received a lecture from a friend about going on holiday. Didn't she care about the environment?
The sheepish mentality that keeps them from questioning climate, immigration and all the rest will presumably keep the next Stalin or Napoleon in place too. I guess that is the insight here.
Yes, the channel may change but watching the show will remain popular.
It is control of the elite, not of the masses or even demographics that decides what goes.
So how does one control the elite? Our current batch seem especially inept.
Oh yes. They are, and I think this is good news. The replacement of one elite with another usually begins with a disaffected intellectual faction, which then attracts backing - financial and industrial and so on.
That’s one way. To look more credible than the incumbent. The one we have is exhausted and has degraded from ideals to plunder. The games up. It is a question of who has the acumen to seize the opportunity
Yes I agree. I see no contenders stepping forward mind you. I think a significantly less liberal set would actually be very popular with many.
It’s still going to come as a tremendous shock to most people that Liberalism really is dead, and what that means. That is more of an observation than an opinion, given what has happened in once liberal states.
There will be events which demonstrate this fact more obviously and in a manner which is startling to those who still think it’s the 1990s. The Regime really is desperate and there is genuine - and justified - fear within it at what might follow their unarrestable enfeeblement.
Interesting times.
One revolution is still necessary: the one that will not end with the rule of its leader. It will be the revolution against revolutions, the uprising of all peaceable individuals, who will become soldiers for once so that neither they nor anyone else will ever have to be a soldier again.
Jose Marti
....
Men of action, above all those whose actions are guided by love, live forever.
Jose Marti
The American population in 1776 was 2.5 million. The Russian Empire ruled over about 125 million people before it's fall in 1917, just 141 years later. In 2023, 247 years after the founding of America, the USA population is about 336 million souls, a lot of which are foreign, not-American people. The sheer number of not-American people living in our country, the USA, cannot be overstated. These claims to history and what should be are almost laughable. We have tens, thousands of millions of immigrants in our American borders today taking jobs, taking government services, taking millions, billions of American tax payer dollars from real Americans, and almost zero state or federal politicians will say anything about it. We can all type our words on the internet day after day, while State governments and Mayors sing praises of foreign immigrants and give them services of American taxpayers and citizens. At some point, People have to stand up and say, "Enough. Stop."
Since you mention the Soviets a lot, I'm curious how you factor the White Army into this. Controlling the government didn't actually give the Soviets control of the country without a large scale civil war after.
It seems like that part is much more reliant on broad support.
Well written. It does offer another view on the utility of revolution. I have observed that revolution is offered as a solution to the masses or a consequence of dictatorship in mainstream entertainment.
I have also accepted that revolution is usually a bad thing because if you were to have a revolution with 51% backing then with hard times there would be at risk from the 49% if you cannot deliver on promises. A famous East European Political artist depicted the problem in a painting with a set of rotating statues, as one is pulled down another replaces it to be rotated out of place, regular as clockwork. Such has appeared to happen but if your post is closer to the truth then the revolution is simply a disguise for an elite power transfer and repeated revolutions are simply repeated elite power transfers and that does ring true.
Basically what we need is to have enough people who understand the problem and enough skills to make change. Linux and Mastodon are some of the tools. LetsEncrypt I think is owned by the enemy and the need to use it is pretty well backed into all browsers and the control it offers is massive. Having a truly user owned SSL certificate authority would be a valuable tool to add to the toolbox. A method of communicating that was not owned by one man (starlink) would be a bonus too.
Absolute banger brother. Definitely inspires the soul to look forward to better days. A moving piece 🤌🏻
Not sure what I want to state here; but I know with less than a few percent f the population - we can all cause a revolution.
However ... whilst I am no lover of the French; you have to give them credit for this... with English subtitles (I love it). Sharpen the pitch forks, lock and load guys and girls .... and hey - God bless!.
....
La Marseillaise, sung by Mireille Mathieu. American English ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MQ-SC9bmp4
The only direction France is going to go is backward for the foreseeable future. My last name is Marseille. Our glory days of social activism under Napoleon have faded to a distant memory. Yet, from here in Canada I say, "Vive Napoleon et Vive la France et Mirelle Mathieu".
Hello "Marseille !" ... I have talked to a Canadian women via email since maybe 2000 and the thing I would like to tell you is that you lot over there do not hear or see everything - maybe less than us in the UK. As a Country maybe it is down the toilet with the mass immigration and globilst scum in charge (new one is a WEF - young global leader); but France was right up there with the best marching and fighting against the plandemic... keep the faith as I reckon we willall unite soon and give them their one World government BUT ON OUR TERMS - the peoples...