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Peterson has risen because of the general spiritual degradation of the West, which has created a vacuum for men like him to appear without the old immune system of our ancestors picking him up.

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His interview with Musk was painful to see. He kept interrupting him and rambling at length about total nonsense. Musk appeared bemused

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It’s a shame that this man is exemplary of what is served up by our counterfeit culture as an intellectual.

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He sold out to Israel, Frank, as did Ben Shapiro, Alex Jones, Glen Beck, Tim Pool, and any other big alt media personality. All of these guys are millionaires who are riding the coattails of Patriotism to hide behind the fact anything they say is like a politician at a nudist convention in the real ugliness is inside of them portrayed on the outside.

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16 hrs agoLiked by Frank Wright

I used to quite like Dr Peterson, when he first got onto the scene. The pull yourself up by the bootstrap and find your own meaning in the limitations of this world resonated quite well and dovetailed with my own life and expirences through my mid-20's unto maturity. Those uni lecture on YouTube had some good ideas and I enjoyed his way of communicating.

I liked that he did battle with the screeching hordes of retarded leftiods at the time.

Standing up to resist the idea of compelled speech and group think conformity I think was quite watershed at the time and I'll forever appreciate him for that

Alas the description of his mind melting to mush over the years rings true now. Sucks to see him takin in and used by gods chosen to lead Christians into whatever nafarious designs they be cooking up.

I guess it might be hard to wander balls deep into the culture wars and remain unscathed, mental/spiritually

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If you step back from him and see him in the context of Gad Saad, Sam Harris, Douglas Murray, Dennis Prager, Konstantin Kisin, Yuval Harari, you can see he is a product on a shelf.

You can only buy what is on sale. He is part of the culture industry - a commodity in a commercial operation which produces food for thought of a similar grade to the food like products in the supermarkets.

Peterson’s niche is Approved Maverick if you like. The fact he and people like him seem interesting is an indictment of the sterility of our counterfeit culture, which is intentionally pasteurised for the health and safety of the management.

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That's well put, Frank. I was at first taken in by Saad, Harris, and Murray, and a little by Prager, of those you mention. The lot of them are now quite obviously a pack of fiends, and gee whiz, what might be a common denominator amongst them?

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I am reporting this comment to the ADL.

When your life has been destroyed for your inexplicable and shocking disparagement of the jewish people you will have time to consider that the political system we inhabit was expressly designed to replace the former european civilisation with a form of elite management secured by the dominance of the mass media.

All culture has been mobilised in this effort for at least 70 years. The fact that culturally prominent figures are in fact products of this system is therefore unsurprising, but here we are.

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Oh, is that what they have in common! 😂

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I am very much in favour of reinvigorating in some way that “former european civilization” and in whatever small way I can, as those are the giant’s shoulders upon which we could more properly stand.

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Well I agree with you. The idea is not mine that the world wars swept it away - that was Wyndham Lewis about WW1, in which he served.

I am still writing a book about the counterfeit culture created after that. IN brief, liberal democracy was created as a machinery of elite rule by media following the Great War. Kennan's 1948 paper on "organised political warfare" is the blueprint for the mobilisation of all cultural production in defence and support of this ideology. You have probably heard of Jackson Pollock being a CIA op. Well Kennan included journalism, academia, novels, films, art and public figures too. Fancy that.

This is the system which has produced our "geniuses" and "public intellectuals" for 70 years.

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1945-50Intel/d269

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I was very much like you!

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17 hrs agoLiked by Frank Wright

I think he is leading people away from Christ. And he is definitely on drugs!

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He does look strung out again. This would explain some of the rambling.

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Thanks for this Frank.

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All psychiatrists are psychopaths

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14 hrs agoLiked by Frank Wright

Very on point. He would also appear to be a pathological narcissist. He must always show himself to have a unique understanding of things to show how special he is. His tortured and incomprehensible explanations of Christian concepts are one example of this. And then he goes and wears a Great Schema jacket….

Vox Day was on to this and described it all in his 2018 book on Peterson: “Jordanetics: A Journey into the Mind of Humanity’s Greatest Thinker”. That anyone takes Peterson seriously after that absolutely fatal take-down is a testament to human gullibility.

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14 hrs agoLiked by Frank Wright

This is pretty good stuff. I have several friends that are Jordan Peterson fans, and we have argued about him quite a bit. I listened to a short talk early on when his brand was being established and I was repulsed by it. I gave it another go after he joined Daily Wire, since I think highly of my friends and considered that my initial judgement was possibly rash. I found the second go around to be even worse, and I haven't listened to or read anything he has put out since.

Going against Peterson riles people up in my circle, and it looks like you are getting much of the same pushback here in the comments section. It's pretty wild that people jump on the Peterson bandwagon because he has "so much good stuff to say", considering that the stuff that seems to really resonate with people are the messages of personal responsibility and some pushback against certain aspects of DEI. This is all pretty common stuff that can be heard from many different people without the Jungian baggage.

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My dad was devastated when he found out Freddy Mercury was a poof. It’s hard to accept the obvious about your heroes. There’s not much going on with dr Pills beside the rent - if you ignore his intentional subversion of Christianity

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Oh and the Zionism

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4 hrs agoLiked by Frank Wright

Zionism is pretty powerful stuff. I grew up Evangelical and even spent a year and a half at a Bible college to become a pastor (I dropped out and ended up becoming Catholic around 12 years later). It was still a couple of years before I dropped the "Israel can do no wrong" mindset.

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I am going to interview Brother Andre Marie on his explanation of Zionism, which you can see in this excellent video. Zionism is a heresy, rooted in the religious sense in the doctrine of salvation embodied in the person of the Zionist himself - and not in Christ.

I have written about Zionism for well over a year and I found Brother Andre's explanation exceeded my own understanding significantly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcmuZ5gNkJg

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2 hrs agoLiked by Frank Wright

Thanks, I'll check it out.

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Oh you're welcome. Its a dishonest term used intentionally, and its service extends beyond being a helpmeet to Zionism. The overall goal is a Christianity absent Christ, the "common faith" of John Dewey, a convenience food for the masses under elite management.

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Peterson's family (as well as Candace Owens and Russell Brand to name but a few) have all recently and very publicly converted to Catholicism. I wonder what role we can expect religion to play as the agenda unfolds?

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I don't think Russell Brand has converted, though he is now a Christian (we have all unfortunately seen his tighty whiteys in that river). Candace is a Catholic, and this led to a parting of the ways with the Daily Wire. I don't know about Peterson's family beyond the conversion to Catholicism of his wife. He is one of these "cultural Christians", like Dawkins and Matthew Arnold, and has said he thinks God a fiction and Christ a sort of archetypal myth.

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11 hrs agoLiked by Frank Wright

He has disappeared up his own arse, his crying on stage in Israel was nauseating.

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This is great work

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Thanks Dr Monzo!

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Ok.. Jorden has gone a bit off the freeway in recent times and I suspect too much fame has a lot to do with it..….. but his earlier work was great, as he was part of the push back on woke and post modernism and the whole DEI mess.

This site is aways a bit perverse and hard to read and you always hope the writer will get back on his medication soon.

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20 hrs agoLiked by Frank Wright

Hi Nigel, forgive me if this sounds like correction. I was taken in by JP years ago under a similar misapprehension.

JP's "earlier work" was astroturf publicity, produced for our consumption by the Creative Artists Agency.

He was then and is now a charlatan, and his fake "pushback" was based on simply stating the obvious. There was nothing new or insightful about it, he was only playing the part of the Rebel Professor for the cameras.

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Yes, he’s pure product. Look who is selling it and where it is leading.

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Ok.. Can you explain in simple one liners what is wrong with his earlier work…

He pushed back on controlled speech and woke and DEI and CRT etc…

I believe he acted as a great communicator and thought packager on the issues and a clear thinker in interviews and that was his prime use.

Unfortunately, we have experts that cannot get the message across and confuse themselves with their own brilliance.

So…We need his kind..

Now if you disagree with his message ….. well then I cannot help you 😊

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Wow that’s as lazy an argument as your screed is unfair. It’s clear that you don’t like him because he’s has sympathy for Jews and isn’t an orthodox Christian.

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His good friend Mr Netanyahu is not a nice person and I do not think it respectable to express sympathy towards him. Most of the piece is about Jungianism, which is clearly the inspiration for a book which relies on archetypes and “synchronicity” for its tortured explanation of the Bible. I don’t like him because he is leading people away from a Christ he considers to be a myth, and he is not only clearly deranged, but an obvious product of the mobilisation of cultural production in service of the ruling ideology.

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He’s a man on his own path. It’s just as deranged imo to posit that some cultural force (it’s hard to tell what you’re referring to that tracks with anything that exists in the real world) produced him. You’re reifying the abstract - just what you’re accusing him of doing. Maybe he’s wrong idk but I for one am not afraid of an excursions into occult matters. Having been raised catholic it strikes me as familiar to encounter fear of unorthodox thinking.

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He is a guru. Like all the others, he is a bit of a rascal. He is charismatic, and is issuing retreads of the greatest hits of other gurus before him. This is what they all do.

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Ok.. Can you explain in simple one liners what is wrong with his earlier work…

He pushed back on controlled speech and woke and DEI and CRT etc…

I believe he acted as a great communicator and thought packager on the issues and a clear thinker in interviews and that was his prime use.

Unfortunately, we have experts that cannot get the message across and confuse themselves with their own brilliance.

So…We need his kind..

Now if you disagree with his message ….. well then I cannot help you 😊

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We do not need his kind at all, Mr Southway, as he is a charlatan and a servant of the enemies of Christ. He is what this system serves you as a "public intellectual", producing what the kids nowadays refer to as "goyslop". Have you read John Gray? His books are short and important.

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I suggest you let others judge what they want ..... Why don’t you be specific about what you dislike about the concepts he talked about in his earlier work and I will see if I agree... You are judging the person and I hate that.

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I have explained where his ideas come from, and who sponsors him, and who his friends are, and what they are doing too. Most of the piece is about psychoanalysis. As for judgement, if all there is to eat is gruel most will prefer it to starvation.

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You mean the self help books? A reasonable starter and well marketed product. Peterson seemed a breath of fresh air in a stale atmosphere - and yes his Cathy Newman interview is an urban legend. I am not concerned with his first and second albums. This is a review of his new direction.

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I agree. This is a personal attack riddled with fear. It’s kinda hard to believe that JP, so obviously sui generis is a product of anything but his own mind. Maybe he’s a bit out there but as you note the author doesn’t accord him the courtesy of dealing with any of his ideas.

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I don't think he has any ideas. I think he is a midwit presented as a sage at best, and is obviously not the full shilling. He does not deserve to be taken seriously, except in his efforts to guide western civilisation towards an end which clearly does not lead to Christ. This is remarkably similar to the ends long determined by the architects of liberal-global "democracy". A religion absent God, a Christianity absent Christ. I think this is his only idea worthy of serious consideration.

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As always, interesting, well-written, humour where appropriate, and laser-sharp. I admit that I was a Jordan Peterson fan from the get-go. I used to listen to his lectures on "Maps of Meaning" for about a year prior to his becoming famous. In the intervening years I have seen his erratic decline and, most especially, the past few since joining the ZioWire.

To be even more honest, it was mostly JP who got me started on what's often called a spiritual journey, one which I had never previously embarked upon, and I suppose I must thank him for that. After all, I used to be a life-long atheist and now I'm not. The high point, in a weird way, was when he had his first "debate" with that retard, Sam Harris. They couldn't even get started after a full hour of Harris refusing to concede even a single premise. Hence revealing for all Harris's stupidation (I read most of his fucking books, too. Sheesh.) I mean, if you are going to argue, say, that gravity is not a real "force" or something like that, you would at least have to concede, "what goes up must come down"? Nope, not our boy, Sam. No way.

Anyway, my further point in this comment (forgive me for its length) is also that, although I'm fairly far along in that "spiritual journey" -- and just so you know, it ain't at all like JP's -- I am very much enjoying reading and learning from you in this and other regards, Frank.

Also there are lots of great commenters to read herein, so that's a bonus, too.

Bravi tutti.

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So you're saying that I don't have to make my bed each morning or tidy up my room? Who do I see to get those wasted hours back?

Have you ever looked in to MK Ultra reprogramming, Mr. Wright? Is there anything to it? Peterson, famously, had a breakdown a few years earlier and has come back as a Netanyahu-befriending cheerleader for Our Greatest Ally's current genocidal actions. I am admittedly not a follower of Peterson, but his vocal support of Israel was absent from his early pronouncements, I believe.

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Yes he got melted but note that his manager Mr Cohen has been there from the beginning of his transition from lecturer to public personality. MKULTRA is documented, real and uncle Ted got the treatment if I remember correctly. I don't think he has been Sirhan Sirhaned. His mind broke under the spotlight and he has been managed into promoting "judeochristianity" ever since. He's done well out of it, wouldn't you say?

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As for your room JHH - remember the immortal wisdom of Zen: "Since my house burned down I have a better view of the sky".

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Remember: Judeo-Christian is acceptable (for now), but it's a big nyet to mention the more truthful Judeo-Bolshevism.

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As I have foolishly said before, bolshevism and zionism are the pillars of the postwar consensus. Permanent revolution, permanent war.

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There's no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. It's an oxymoron, there is only Christianity.

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I am aware of it, and wrote an explainer of the term - its provenance, its use and why it is widespread - here:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/how-conservatives-adopted-the-term-judeo-christian-to-justify-the-zionist-agenda/

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Did you notice that in his "Heaven and Hell suit" that Hell, or the goats, are represented via his right, while his left side represents Heaven?

This is an inversion of Matthew 25:33 where Christ at His judgment "...will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left."

Those on the left hand of Christ are the ones destined for damnation, not salvation.

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As a researcher in MKUltra, mind control and similar topics, I would just like to point out that voices in the head need not point to "demonic possession" per se. Individuals like Peterson are very likely victims of MKUltra-style mental programming; it would not surprise me in the least (indeed, I find his past mental episodes as indicative) that he is DID (dissociative; ie multipersonality). And one thing I do know about such people is they often have preprogrammed "God", "Holy Spirit" or other similar parts of their mind fully able to function as "the voice in their head". So the voices are real, but they are only tortured components of his own mind, splintered off, sequestered, and capable of receiving instruction from programmers (e.g. satanic priests, psychologists, family member handlers etc). Peterson isnt in control of his own life or thoughts; his handler(s) are, whoever they may be.

Now this does not de facto rule out "demonic possession", but the state of MKUltra-style mind control that exists nowadays should be first suspicion of bizarre behaviour, in my view, with spiritual causes second on the list for investigation. Just my humble thoughts from the expansive information I have on the subject.

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Peterson made a pact with Israel to get rich with the rest of these major alt media millionaires who sold their souls in the name of the Garza children blood caked all over their hands.

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